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Poster: FP Date: Sep 15, 2004 11:36pm
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Automation seems a bit wonky


Even if the Archives site and its search engine stay just as they are, they will be among the most valuable free services on the web. However, just in case a fix list is being compiled, I have a few Open Source questions and suggestions...

Since the MP4 files that are automatically generated are almost always faulty, why not just do away with them? Even when they work, the quality is usually unacceptable for almost any purpose, even as a preview.

The visible XML files in the download list are very confusing. They're probably necessary for the search function, but should they be visible to everyone?

I notice, by leaving my ftp upload folder open while derivations are being made, that multiple preview GIF files are created. In addition to the expected GIF, there are one or more GIFs appended with the format of various files I uploaded - there is a *_VCD.gif and a *QUICKTIME.gif and so on. There are also at least two folders of "thumbnail" gifs. What are those for?

My last two movies do not show up in the RECENT ADDITIONS list. They only appear in a specific search. Is this a result of the incomplete revision of the search engine, or did I do something that caused that?

I usually try to upload as many formats as possible, because the derivations generated here are often messed up. I've also been uploading custom preview GIFs that are more compact and descriptive then the Archives-generated file. Is this disrupting the process somehow?

Thanks again for the effort that goes into this enormous site - - -

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Poster: simon c Date: Sep 16, 2004 1:18am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Automation seems a bit wonky

Here goes:

- Automation of MPEG4 derivations is indeed wonky for a large amount of files in Open-Source Movies. It's working decent for some other files, like Skip's new AVGeeks collection, though. I know that lots of people at the Archive have been wanting to fix it or remove it, but it's been stuck in the 'in between' limbo. I'm now recommending we remove MPEG4 derivations for Open-Source Movies, if we can do so on a collection by collection basis, but that's up to Stewart@Archive and other people who work there full-time.

- I agree on the XML files being exposed, though there may be some other reason for it. I think there just hasn't been time or a specific feature request to code a mask for these and the .conf files - it's a bit confusing, but not too bad, especially with the audio-style layout for file downloads.

- Not sure about the multiple preview GIFs - probably, there's one per version, because we can't be sure it's an identical file.

- IMHO, there are still some 'Recent Additions' issues with the new search engine. The people working on it have been informed, after some other complaints to me and on the forums, but I don't know an ETA on the fix.

- I think the preview GIFs are cool, and I don't think they mess anything up.

Hope this helps a little.
s!

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Poster: Jonathan Aizen Date: Sep 16, 2004 1:49am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: Automation seems a bit wonky

> - Not sure about the multiple preview GIFs - probably, there's one per version, because we can't be sure it's an identical file.

This is because of the upload of multiple versions of the same content. If you don't want us to generate files, upload a file called IDENTIFIER_rules.conf with CAT.ALL as the contents, and we won't make any derivatives (IDENTIFIER is the name of your item).

> - IMHO, there are still some 'Recent Additions' issues with the new search engine.

As far as I know these have been resolved. I haven't seen much trouble recently. If there are troubles, it is outside of the search engine and pertains to bad metadata (we had some recent issues with putting the date into the XML files which was resolved two days ago).

Jon